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P&Z Board Members Present:
Mr. Hari Nath, Ms. Joy Wayman, Mr. Scott Brookhart, Ms. Kelly Commiskey,
Chairperson Mr. Christopher Brooks, Mr. Harry Baulch, Mr. Don Frantz, Ms.
Julia Rudy, Mr. Keith Fenn
P&Z Board Members Absent:
None
Staff Present: Doug
McRainey, Dan Matthys, Jennifer
Currin, JoAnne Carlyle, Debra Grannan, Wayne Nicholas, Ricky Barker, Tom
Horstman, Tammy Spivey, Greg Barnes, Kevin Hales, Jennifer Robinson Bob
Benfield, and Anna Readling
Town Council member present:
Council Member Robinson
B1. Approval of the
Minutes of the March 19, 2007 Meeting
Motion to Approve: Ms. Joy Wyman
Noting that one
change need to be made: Section #2
typo, change “Ms.” To “Mr.”
Second: Mr.
Harry Baulch
Discussion: Minutes
approved with change to section #2 from Ms. to Mr.
Vote: 9-0
B2. Council Member Robinson addressed the Board in regards to Volunteer Appreciation Month and thanked all of the volunteers for their service to the citizens of Cary.
C. Rezoning, Comprehensive
Plan Amendment, or Mixed Use Sketch Plan
requests with public hearing:
1.
06-REZ-29
Waverly Rezoning
presented by Mr. Greg Barnes
Public Hearing Summary
Ms. Peggy Warner, property owner whose yard backs up to the Waverly property voiced concerns about the impact of the stream and possible flooding and erosion. She also noted that there are outstanding issues on 100 year flood plan and the project’s overall effect including the road widening.
Mr. Todd Zadolsk, owner of Waverly
Place. Thanked Cary Staff and
community on working with them on this project. Introduced Luis Rios who is
working on the project to address any issues.
Mr. Luis Rios of Zapolsit & Rudd LLC confirmed that the
storm water management and water quality concerns within the 100 year
storm/flood plain that were brought up by the residents will be addressed.
Mr. Ken Bobbitt, President of the Ambience HOA voiced
concerns with flooding on his property from increased impervious surface due
to redevelopment. He also stated
he is concerned with a lack of park & recreation areas to support this
project.
Mr. Rodney Keller, property owner, stated he was concerned
with any reduction to the streetscape buffers and that he would like the Town to
keep within the perimeters set forth by the Town ordinance and not grant the
reduction request.
Motion:
Ms. Joy Wayman made a motion to recommend that
Town Council adopt an ordinance to approve this Rezoning request because it is
consistent with the Town of Cary
Comprehensive Plan and any other officially adopted plans that are applicable,
as set forth in the Staff Report.
Second:
Mr. Harry Baulch
Discussion:
Mr. Keith Fenn expressed concern with the wording “consistent” with
the Town of Cary comprehensive plan in the motion. Ms.
Kelly Commiskey stated she was in support of the reduction of the streetscape.
Vote:
Motion approved 9-0
2.
06-REZ-40 Stephens Road Property
presented by Ms. Debra Grannan
Public Hearing Summary:
Mr. Willie Good with Jerry Turner & Associates stated
that although the current official request is for 39 lots, it is his intention
to ultimately change the total lot count to 38 and that condition will be
submitted in writing prior to the final vote.
He agreed that TR zoning does have a minimum lot of 6000 ft. but
emphasized that his lots will average closer to 8,000 square feet in size, when
taking into consideration the open space, and will be compatible with the
existing neighborhood. He added that
the required stream buffers will provide more protection than what was required
for the existing neighborhood and that the proposed stormwater management plan
will provide further protection to the neighbors.
Mr.
Neil Kochis, professional engineer, was asked by Mr. John Buxbaum to address
concerns of residents on storm water runoff. To elevate the storm water concerns
would basically be to reduce the storm water runoff, which is to match or not
worsen the storm water conditions for a one (1) year storm event. Mr. Kochis
noted that the developer wants to go beyond and above condition requirements and
offered conditions that the peak stormwater discharge rate from the site during
a 5-year post-development storm event shall not exceed the peak stormwater
discharge rate for the 1-year pre-development storm event.
In addition, the peak stormwater discharge rate from the site during a
25-year post-development storm event shall not exceed the peak stormwater
discharge rate for the 10-year pre-development storm event.
Ms.
Christine Black who lives immediately adjacent to the subject property provided
handouts to support her concerns dealing with primarily the density of current
developments and what is being proposed as well as the fear of the developer
cutting down mature trees and not continuing to maintain the existing stormwater
retention pond.
Ms.
Ruth Merkle a resident of Wellington
Park spoke on behalf of
some of her neighbors that could not make the meeting.
Their concern included development near stream buffers from on-site and
underground streams.
Mr. Rodney Keller spoke in favor of the request.
He believes this development will increase property values. He added that
Mr. Buxbaum has been forthcoming and honest with his intent.
Mr. John Buxbaum, the applicant and developer of this site stated the
comprehensive plan calls for the maximum of six (6) units and his proposal is at
less than half of that. The Land Development Ordnance (LDO) notes for storm
water protection, with storm water being a hot topic in the community and he is
trying to do this in the right way and that he stands behind this development
and putting measures in place that will improve what is currently around this
area. Mr. Buxbaum further
stated that he will only clear lots for the streets and not just clear cutting
of the complete land to address the concerns of Ms. Black.
Motion: Ms.
Joy Wayman made a motion to approve as outlined by Staff with a further
recommendation that the additional commitment from the developer of limiting the
maximum number of lots to 38 and that the peak stormwater discharge rate from
the site during a 5-year post-development storm event shall not exceed the peak
stormwater discharge rate for the 1-year pre-development storm event, and the
peak stormwater discharge rate from the site during a 25-year post-development
storm event shall not exceed the peak stormwater discharge rate for the 10-year
pre-development storm event.
Second:
Mr. Harry
Baulch
Discussion:
Motion was re-read with no discussion
Vote Approved 9-0
D. Rezoning, Comprehensive
Plan Amendment, or Mixed Use Sketch Plan
requests with no public hearing:
1.
06-REZ-26
Village
at the Park Planned Development District Amendment presented by Mr. Kevin Hales.
Motion:
Ms. Joy Wayman made a motion to recommend that Town Council adopt
an ordinance to approve this Rezoning request because it is consistent with the
Town of Cary
Comprehensive Plan and any other officially adopted plans that are applicable.
Furthermore, the proposed amendment represents a reduction in the impacts
on surrounding properties from the originally approved PDD.
Second:
Mr. Chris Brooks
Discussion:
Ms. Kelly
Commiskey stated that she would vote against the motion and that it is her
preference in that we curtail our changing of office districts to multifamily
uses. The more we remove office zoned land, the less opportunity there is for
business growth. The closer we get
to the Research Triangle Park (RTP) the less likely that I am to like these
types of request. Mr. Don
Frantz agreed with Ms. Kelly Commiskey. Ms. Joy Wayman was in favor of putting
the most people as close to the Park (RTP) to alleviate traffic.
Vote:
7-2 (Ms. Kelly
Commiskey and Mr. Don Frantz voted against the motion to
approve)
2.
06-MU-03
Village at the Park Mixed Use Sketch Plan
presented by Ms. Debra
Grannan
Motion: Mr.
Harry Baulch made a motion to table until the plan was complete in meeting LDO
requirements.
Second: Ms.
Julia Rudy
Discussion:
Mr. Keith Fenn asked for clarification regarding the Kit
Creek Right-Of-Way (ROW) and if the applicant would be asking for a waiver from
construction or request a payment-in-lieu. Ms.
Grannan stated that the applicant had not specified for what they would be
asking for but that the applicant would make a determination based on feed back
from engineering as to what would be appropriate.
Vote Item tabled - 9-0
3.
06-MU-05
Waverly Mixed Use Sketch Plan
presented by Mr. Greg Barnes
Motion:
Ms. Kelly Commiskey made a motion to recommend Council approve this
request with the conditions outlined in the Staff Report
Second:
Mr. Keith Fenn
Discussion:
Mr. Harry Baulch had concerns for storm retention and why it was not possible on
this site. He could not understand why storm water management was not part of
this plan. Mr. Don Frantz agreed
with Mr. Harry Baulch in regards to the stormwater issue.
Mr. Keith Fenn was concerned with the double dipping and reduction that
is going to compromise the total numbers of parking spaces and how this will
impact redevelopment in the future.
Mr. Scott Brookhart also had concerns with not enough parking
spaces; however, this proposal would be a great opportunity to make this place a
center piece in Cary.
Ms. Julia Rudy noted that in the staff report, the traffic analysis stated the
intersections are projected to operate at unacceptable levels during peak hours
which concerned her with the hospital being across the street from this project.
Vote: 9-0 in favor
4.
06-REZ-27 Modern
Woodmen of America presented by
Mr. Bob Benfield
Motion:
Mr. Keith Fenn made a motion to recommend Town Council adopt an ordinance
allowing the request for this rezoning that it is consistent with the current
Town of Cary Comprehensive Plan
and any other officially adopted plans that are applicable.
And furthermore as stated in the staff report for the following reasons:
The development is compatible with adjacent uses and provides reasonable
buffers and transitions between uses.
Second:
Mr. Don Frantz
Discussion:
None
Vote 9-0
5.
06-REZ-38 Cary
Park Overlay-Meacham
Property presented
by Ms. Jennifer
Currin
Land Use is
Mix.
R40 to R40 with mixed use
overlay district
Motion:
Ms. Joy Wayman made a motion to recommend Town Council adopt an ordinance
allowing the request for this rezoning that it is consistent with the current
Town of Cary Comprehensive Plan and any other officially adopted plans that are
applicable. And furthermore as
stated in the staff report for the following reasons:
The development is compatible with adjacent uses and provides reasonable
buffers and transitions between uses.
Second:
Mr. Keith
Fenn
Discussion:
Mr. Don Frantz did not support
placing a mixed use overlay zoning on top of an R-40 zoning district
Vote: 8-1 (Mr. Don
Frantz voted against the motion to approve)
6.
06-REZ-39 Cary
Park Overlay presented
by Ms. Anna Readling
Motion to approve:
Ms. Kelly Commiskey made a
motion to recommend Town Council adopt an ordinance allowing the request for
this rezoning because it is consistent with the current Town of Cary
Comprehensive Plan and any other officially adopted plans that are applicable.
Second:
Mr. Hari Nath
Discussion:
Mr. Don Frantz wished that we could just pick a zoning and stick with it
and change it to what we want to build on it but when you got a Planned
Development District (PDD) with an Office & Institutional - Conditional Use
(O/I-CU) with a R-40 zoning district and a Jordan Lake Overlay District and now
we are going to add a mixed use center overlay district on top of that seems to
be a little to complicated. Mr. Franz further stated that the public would like
to be able to research land to see what could be build there and not have to
research multiple layers (zoning districts and overlays) and that he prefers
zoning to be easier to understand.
Vote: 8-1 (Mr. Don Frantz voted against the motion to approve)
7.
06-SB-017, 018
Manors at Green Level Crossing Subdivision presented
by Mr.
Bob Benfield.
Mr. Keith Fenn requested to be removed
from voting on this case due to conflict of
interest.
Vote:
8-0 in favor.
Property is currently zoned R40
LID: Low Impact Development
Motion:
Ms. Joy Wayman made a motion to approve the subdivision plan as submitted
by the
applicant
Second:
Mr. Harry Baulch
Discussion:
Most of the concerns from the P&Z Board related to curb/ gutter, wet
detention ponds and rain gardens. Mr. Harry Baulch asked if the Town of Cary had
guidelines for Low Impact Development (LID) design principles with sidewalks.
Mr. Bob Benfield stated that we are trying to make more of a rural area
by not having sidewalks. Mr. Don Frantz asked where the water would go with a
curb & gutter. The applicant,
Mr. Travis Moorehead, state it would go in pipes then to storm water ponds.
Mr. Moorehead also stated that it meets the Jordan Lake Watershed Overlay
and all other Town of Cary requirements, other than LID.
Vote: 4 – 4
For:
Mr. Hari Nath, Ms. Joy Wayman, Mr. Harry Baulch and Mr. Don Frantz
Against: Mr. Scott Brookhard,
Ms. Kelly Commiskey, Mr. Christopher Brooks and Ms.
Julia Rudy
8.
06-SB-019 Saxonbury Singh Subdivision presented
by Mr. Bob Benfield
Motion: Ms. Joy Wayman made motion to bring back fellow board
member Keith Fenn.
Seconded: Scott Brookhart
Vote: 6-2 (Mr. Don Frantz and Ms.
Kelley Commiskey voted against the motion).
Motion to approve:
Mr. Don Frantz made a motion to approve the subdivision plan as submitted
by the applicant.
Second:
Mr. Hari Nath
Discussion:
Mr. Keith Fenn noted that he was a proponent of sidewalks.
Any development should have sidewalks regardless of the Overlay or rural
objectives. Mr. Scott Brookhart
stated if the philosophical intent of the LID is used and used to its extent,
that it is not fair to the applicant. He
encouraged Staff to give a clearer definition of what is expected in this
Overlay District and staff needs to either train developers about LID and
implementing it effectively with what the Town prefers to see.
Mr. Hari Noth agreed that staff needs to provide better guidance.
Ms. Julia Rudy stated that we can implement the LID into these plans with
sidewalks. Mr. Keith Fenn made note
of the density option, land preservation and LID may not be a good thing to have
and that maybe even the density option should not be here.
Vote: 5 – 4
For: Mr. Hari Nath, Ms. Joy Wayman,
Mr. Harry Baulch, Mr. Don Frantz and Mr. Keith Fenn
Against: Mr. Scott Brookhard, Ms.
Kelly Commiskey, Mr. Christopher Brooks and Ms.
Julia Rudy
E.
For Information
1. Monthly
Construction Activity Reports
2. Monthly
Site/Subdivision Activity Reports
F.
Adjournment 11:15 p.m.