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TOWN OF CARY
Parks, Recreation and Cultural Resources Advisory Board
2004 MINUTES
DATE: Janurary 5, 2004
Town Hall Campus; Bldg. B
Upper Conference Room
318 N. Academy Street
Cary, North Carolina 27513
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ATTENDANCE: Tom Hemrick,
Chair; Lisa Duke; Jamie France; Bob Hickey; Leta Huntsinger; Greg Lytle; Toby Kennedy; Kay Struffolino; Dave Upton; Melissa White; Doug Meardon, Youth Member; Marla Dorrel,
Council Liaison
STAFF: Mary Henderson; Lyman Collins;
Bruce Crocker; William Davis; Dwayne Jones; Doug McRainey; Judy Newsome; Gail
Taylor
ABSENT:
GUESTS: Dennis Pitts; Boots Elam; Hill Carrow; Richard Joanis; Nan
Hannah; Paul Silver; Cid Cardoso; Wendy Lemus
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Call
to Order - Chair
Tom Hemrick called the meeting to order.
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II
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Minutes
- Kay Struffolino made a motion to approve the December 2003
minutes as presented. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
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III
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Public
Speaks Out
Aquatics Facility
- Hill Carrow, representing the State Capital
Sports Center Project (SCSC), spoke to the board summarizing the vision of
this grass roots organization. Mr. Carrow
presented a concept plan which includes 5 pools overall. In addition, this
center would also include ice and fitness facilities. SCSC proposes
marketing this facility as a community hub for recreation, fun and
fitness. The addition of ice and fitness along with indoor diving,
seating and an outdoor 50-meter pool would attract regional and national
events and impact Cary economically. A 26-acre Weston tract (Cary
Parkway and Sheldon Drive) has been proposed for this facility. In
summary, Mr. Carrow indicated that SCSC sees this
as an opportunity to further develop amateur sports which was the #1
generator of economics in 2002; always keep facility open for the public with
no 'down' time for recreational swimmers.
Board member Leta Huntsinger
asked if Mr. Carrow's group would move forward with
the project in the event the Town chose not to partner. Mr. Carrow responded that the group would not proceed with
the entire facility. He mentioned that perhaps some components could be done
privately and that some components would better lend themselves to
public/private partnerships. Board member Lisa Duke wanted to know why the
entire pool wasn’t dedicated to leisure activities versus competitive
swimming. Mr. Carrow
noted that leisure pools make money, competitive pools do not. Despite
this, Mr. Carrow also noted that while the recent
Town sponsored survey indicated the need for swimming facilities, it did not
exclude the need for competitive swimming. Youth member Doug Meardon noted the need for high school competitive
swimming. Currently, the meets are held at Raleigh's Pullen Park or
teams must travel to Campbell University.
Council member Marla Dorrel
noted that she has been involved in this project for 2-years and believed in
the concept or some hybrid thereof. Ms. Dorrel
noted that Mr. Carrow had brought the economic
development aspect to this project. The questions raised include:
Does the Town want to partner to bring in ice and fitness? What are the
benefits to the community (use and economy)? Does the Town wish to take
this project to another level? Council will be looking for a
recommendation from this board as to the direction and amenities to incorporate
into this facility.
Mr. Carrow indicated there were several ways to get
the project off the ground; lease arrangements using the ground as
collateral. Mr. Carrow also indicated a
decision on the Convention Center will be announced this Thursday which would
affect the monies available from the Wake County Hotel/Motel tax.
Supporters of the SCSC attending this meeting included: Richard Joanis; Nan Hannah; Paul Silver; Cid Cardoso.
No action was required at the meeting.
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Special Presentation - Middle Creek Master Plan, Phases
II & III - Alice Webb
Alice updated board
members on the Middle Creek Master Plan, phases II & III for this 106
acre community school/park in southern Wake County. Alice noted that there have been two
public meetings to generate input as to the amenities participants would like
to see at this park. Additionally, there were discussions with
representatives of nonprofit sports groups to determine potential
partnerships with the Town in building/improving athletic fields at Middle Creek Park.
Alice introduced consultant Dennis
Pitts with McNeely & Associates. Dennis reviewed renderings
pointing out the features of this park. Proposed for Phase II:
ticket booths/softball pinwheel area; 113-space parking lot; multi-use
athletic field; paved trail in northwest area of school/park; restroom/small
shelter building; playground; public art; mulch trail in southeast portion of
school/park; 18-hole disc golf course; maintenance storage area.
Proposed for Phase III: 93-space parking lot; large picnic shelter with
restrooms; large playground; open play lawn. For the first time,
reclaimed water will be used to irrigate the fields. The remaining acreage is reserved for a
potential fire station/Safety Town and a potential Wake County
Library site. Lisa Duke asked about the play area and the possibility for
input during the design phase. Mr. Pitts noted this area could include a
spray element and climbing wall but that the overall theme of the playground
had not been determined. Doug McRainey noted that input would definitely
be possible during the design phase. Toby Kennedy questioned why the greenway
did not extend both to Optimist Farm Road as well as to the Jamison Park
Subdivision. Doug McRainey noted that there was no connection planned during
phase II but could be considered for later phases.
ACTION: Greg Lytle made a motion to accept staff's recommendation of
the design plan as presented. The motion carried with two dissenting
votes (Melissa White and Toby Kennedy).
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Land
Dedications - Doug McRainey
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Twin Lakes PUD - This project is a 300-acre
master-planned community located on the east side of Davis Drive; and north
and south of McCrimmon Parkway. 1104 units
are proposed for this development with a required dedication of 20
acres. Boots Elam with ETD presented a rendering of
the project reviewing the developers PIL proposal. Mr. Elam noted that the applicant would
provide a 42-acre tract, which would include several ponds to meet the land dedication
requirement. He also noted that greenway easements would also be provided to
link with Downing Village to the east of the Twin Lakes project. The applicant would also
construct a multi-use along McCrimmon Parkway, which would extend from Davis Drive to the northern edge of the
proposed park site. Board member Toby Kennedy felt there was a need to extend
the multi-use trail further along MCrimmon all the
way to Town Hall Drive. Doug McRainey
stated that sidewalks were proposed. Toby questioned this and considered
this a missing link in the trail system. Mr. Elam responded that the trail
placement will be done at the master-planning stage.
Staff recommended approval of:
1)
42.6-acre park
dedication
2)
Dedication of
greenway easement along Town Hall Drive extension
3)
Dedication of
greenway easements to link park site with greenway parallel to Town Hall Drive
4)
Donation of 7.32
acres of open space along eastern side of development project.
ACTION: Kay Struffolino made a motion to accept staff's
recommendation. The motion carried. There was one dissenting vote
(Toby Kennedy).
Forest Oaks - This is a 545 -unit project
located west of Highway 55, southwest of Cary Park PDD. The required
dedication of 15.57 acres. Doug McRainey
reviewed staff’s recommendation with the Board. Doug also reviewed the Greenway Committee's
recommendations with the Board. A conversation developed regarding the
differences between staff’s recommendations and the Greenway Committee’s
recommendations. payment-in-lieu of park dedication; any access to SF-9
(located west of the American Tobacco Trail) should go under the American
Tobacco Trail; Recommend design and construction of 10' greenway (asphalt)
through east-west tributary linking Yates Store Road to the American Tobacco
Trail.
Staff recommended approval of:
1) Payment-in-lieu or Swap of park land with the Amberly PDD
2) Greenway Easement (if applicant owes payment-in-lieu then the funds should
be used to construct the greenway)
3) Access to SF-9, if developed, by grade separated
crossing of tobacco trail
ACTION: Lisa Duke made a motion to accept staff's
recommendation excluding the greenway. The motion did not carry.
ACTION: Greg Lytle then made a motion to accept staff's along with the
additional recommendations listed below:
4) Greenway connection; direct from Yates Store Road to Cary Glen Boulevard
in lieu of connection to the south
5) 100' buffer for any private development adjacent to ATT
The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
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VI
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Reports
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A. Committee Reports
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Athletic
Committee - Bob
Hickey
Bob reported that the committee did not meet and that youth basketball
programs were underway.
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Cultural
Arts Committee-
Toby Kennedy
Toby reported that the last meeting was held at Cary Elementary School with four PRCR Board members in
attendance. Members were given a tour of the school to get a feel for
the size and nature of the building.
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Greenway
Committee - Leta Huntsinger
Leta reported that the committee did not meet.
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Teen
Advisory Committee-
Kay Struffolino
Kay provided members with a handout of recent activities and noted that the
work of this committee continues to focus on the Teen Forum to take place in
March.
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Senior Center - Kay Struffolino, Liaison
Kay provided members with a handout of recent activities. Kay noted
that 130 attended the holiday party and concerts, and
that Warm Up America donated 18 afghans to the Dorcas
Shop to be given to needy families in Cary.
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Teen
Council - Doug Meardon,
President
Doug reported that Santa's Workshop was a huge success and that they visited
a nursing home in December. Upcoming events include: Movie Night
and Band Night; State Youth Conference in Raleigh; a synergy meeting with the PRCR
staff to pull in new program ideas. Teen Council membership continues
to grow making it necessary to revisit and amend the bylaws. A
leadership skill-building program is also on the horizon. Another
program being discussed is washing Town of Cary emergency vehicles.
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B.
Public Meeting Update - No Report
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C.
Administration
Budget Report - Mary
Henderson did a PowerPoint presentation on Operations and Maintenance (planning
to establish board priorities related to services). Members were
provided hard copies of the presentation.
Lisa Duke suggested more track-out/home school programs and timing program
offerings that accommodate elementary age children allowing siblings to
attend age-appropriate classes at the same time. Lisa asked if staff
considered hiring professional coaches. Mary indicated staff would
report on these topics at the next meeting. Dwayne Jones noted that
staff has met with home school groups to develop alternative programming.
Toby Kennedy asked about Building and Grounds staffing for PRCR
facility/program support. Mary responded that they do this same budget
process to accommodate our needs through their own department budget.
It was noted that two rates (resident & non-resident) are in place at our
special use facilities.
Bob Hickey asked about the open gym policy and if citizens could use the gyms
as long as they were not programmed. Dwayne Jones noted that gyms were
available to citizens when not programmed and that standard
fees, waivers, and policies apply. Dwayne indicated he would
follow through with center staff to make certain they were following policy.
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D. Recreation
Programs - Dwayne Jones
Dwayne referred to the Program Update. Dwayne noted that mailings of
the Teen Scene now reach 2500 Cary youth. Staff is looking at
redesign of this monthly mail out. Movie Night is also being revisited
to increase attendance and referenced the recent article on 'What it Means to
be a Teenager".
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E.
Cultural Resources - Lyman Collins
Lyman referred to the Program Update..
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F.
Athletic Programs -
William Davis
William noted that youth basketball was in progress with 1230
participants. Registration is currently being accepted for Men's 35+
Basketball League.
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VII.
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Old
Business
Volunteer Awards
Committee - Judy Newsome noted that the
volunteer nominations forms are available on the web and that this committee
will meet on January 27th. The banquet is February
24, 2004.
Master Plan - Mary Henderson reported that the PRCR Facilities Master Plan
was approved by Town Council in December 2003.
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VIII.
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New
Business
PRCR Board Liaison - Marla Dorrel noted the she
will continue as the liaison to the Parks, Recreation and Cultural Resources
Advisory Board.
NCRPS President - Mary Henderson was recognized and congratulated on her
appointment as president of the North Carolina Recreation and Parks Society.
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IX.
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Adjourn
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