Town of
Cary
Council/Staff Retreat
January 18-20, 2008
Mid Pines Resort
Council
Members Present: Mayor Harold Weinbrecht, Mayor Pro Tem Julie Robison, Council
Members Gale Adcock, Don Frantz, Erv Portman and Jennifer Robinson
Council
Member Absent: Council Member Jack Smith (Mr. Smith participated by phone in
portions of the retreat, and the minutes reflect this participation)
Staff
Present: Bill Coleman, Town Manager; Ben Shivar, Assistant Town Manager; Mary
Henderson, Parks, Recreation and Cultural Resources Director; Jeff Ulma,
Planning Director; Ricky Barker, Associate Planning Director; Chris Simpson,
Town Attorney; Pat Bazemore, Police Chief; Karen Mills, Finance Director; Vee
Willis, Human Resources Director; Rob Bonne, Utilities Director; Leila Goodwin,
Water Resources Manager; Scott Fogleman, Budget Director; Susan Moran, Public
Information Officer; Steve Brown, Public Works and Utilities Director; Tim
Bailey, Engineering Director; Lana Hygh; Assistant to the Manager; Bill Stice,
Technology Services Director; and Sue Rowland, Town Clerk; the arrival times of
Public Works Director Mike Bajorek, Fire Chief Allan Cain and Inspections and
Permits Director Bob Strowbridge are noted in the minutes
Facilitator: Phil Boyle
The
agenda follows:
Friday, February 18, 2008
The
retreat began at 2
p.m. The mayor
welcomed everyone. Phil Boyle led everyone in an ice breaker activity.
Mr.
Boyle shared the following retreat goals. Council member Smith participated in
this session and the remainder of the Friday afternoon discussions.
1.Engage council and staff members in identifying
and discussing issues and challenges facing Cary today and create a shared sense
of direction and goals about tomorrow.
2.
Clarify mutual expectations and
obligations – identify what council members expect of each other, what the
council expects of the town manager and the staff, what the town manager and
staff expect of the council, and ways in which council and staff members can
best meet these expectations.
3.
Craft a water policy direction
– engage council and staff members in crafting the town’s water policy goals,
identifying key issues and choices, identifying strategies and actions for
achieving these goals, and developing a consensus on how best to navigate this
policy.
Policy values, choices and decisions
Mr.
Boyle’s powerpoint presentation on values, choices and decisions is attached to
and incorporated herein as Exhibit.
Mr.
Bajorek arrived at
3:55 p.m.; Mr.
Strowbridge arrived at
4:37 p.m.
The
following issues were raised:
Council
Member Robinson thinks the staff provides sufficient information in staff
reports, but with council-initiated items, the council should not provide
solutions at the beginning of the process.
Council
Member Portman suggested that the council members agree to move on after a vote
has been taken, even if they disagree with the outcome.
Council
Member Smith stated council has in the past established ground rules; he asked
for some discussion why this has failed. Mr. Boyle stated all members must feel
heard for this to successfully occur.
The
council met as a group and the staff met as two groups to come up with the
following information.
Council expectations: What they want from their experience as
council members:
- be
listened to
- be
respected
- get
things done and leave Cary a better place
- be
deliberative with decisions
-
respect different perspectives
- strive
for excellence
- make
decisions that balance citizen interests
- be
seen as fair by everyone
- be
innovative
- find
common ground as much as possible
- make
Cary better
- give
everyone a chance to talk
- be
committed to success as group
- do not
blindside each other or staff
- feel
freedom to express views but support decisions of council
- create
a “we” experience in addition to “I”
-
recognize and respect the need to take different positions on different
issues
-
coordinate district and at-large constituent communications
-
respect each other’s time and obligations
- be
mutually responsible
- we
look good or bad together
- we
steward, nurture and promote the democratic process
-
nurture citizenship
What staff needs from council:
- work
as a group
-
healthy intra-council relationships
- clear
direction from council as a group
-
support staff in public; criticize in private
-
communicate values behind decisions
-
identify problems instead of solutions (focus on policy outcomes vs.
solutions/methods of addressing
-
discuss new issues with staff before discussing them with the public
- stay
on topic
-
communicate effectively with one another
-
provide relevant background information
- raise
concerns in advance
-
communicate town policy decisions to citizens
- verify
facts before stating them in public
- open
2-way reciprocal communications
-
explain context of requests
- set
priorities (not everything is urgent)
- trust,
recognition, respect
-
willingness to consider multiple alternatives
-
understanding of resource impacts (time, money)
Council
Member Portman wants staff to tell council when they are wrong by giving
professional advice.
The
Friday session ended at
6:14 p.m.
The
council, staff and facilitator had dinner as a group.
Saturday, January 19, 2008
Fire
Chief Allan Cain was present.
Council’s individual issues/priorities:
Harold Weinbrecht:
-
citizen involvement (keep plugged in)
- open
up dialog
-
citizen questions and concerns must be addressed
- open
up what we do as a council
- Growth
– what types (density, multi-family vs. office – wants more office)
-
Building out – how to handle, population/density
- Rate
of growth – match with infrastructure to maintain quality of life
- How to
link growth and infrastructure
- Roads
– improvements and widening (budget)
- Road
maintenance – address potholes, etc.
- C-Tran
(underutilized) – integrate bus systems regionally/expand C-Tran
- Think
about light rail after bus systems in place to support this
- Agreed
with other council members on school issues; wants to focus on good
relationships with school board members
Don Frantz:
schools
- fix
existing or create new system
- school
board members elected at large
- Board
of Education taxing authority
-
clustering (strengthen districts and keep children within district)
- wants
to see what’s involved in a Cary school system (legislative authority)
-
tax/revenue implications
downtown:
-
downtown and old Cary (inside Maynard Loop)
- crime
in downtown area
-
downtown reinvestment/revitalization – what else can we do to inspire people
to do this?
- What
can the town do to help with infrastructure downtown?
-
Downtown park – how can we acquire property faster
- Cary
Elementary – cultural arts center – how can we do it faster?
- Job
recruitment/economic development/corporate headquarters downtown (i.e.,
culinary schools)
- How do
we compete with other municipalities
environment:
-
water/wastewater
- wants
town to be greener/hopes issue advisory council can help
- litter
- wants
Cary to be known as a leader with green initiatives (green, clean and cool)
- work
with and incent developers
-
efficient design and development
- top
citizen priorities
- engage
citizens in ideas/initiatives
Erv Portman:
Constrain
everything with budget collar – understand tax rate/revenue and understand
tradeoffs (general comment)
environment:
-
preserve natural environment
-
Restrict mass grading
- Ensure
LDO is restrictive to ensure we work with the land to the extent possible
-
Chatham Co. land use plan issue – plan should be analyzed from standpoint of
environmental impact to the lake
-
Cool/green – need a work session to understand what it is, how to
incorporate in building code and how to do it
police/safety:
-
Improve response times – private and public (expand ambulance service)
-
Expanded liability coverage for police officers
- Make
sure building codes are state of the art regarding multi-family to protect
fire spread (high density developments)
land
development:
- Walnut
St corridor (we’ve over-restricted land use and infringed upon people’s
rights) Jack Smith
strongly disagrees with this statement
-
Concurrency in infrastructure
- Road
specifications – challenge whether they are right (narrower vs. wider roads
– it’s harder to speed on narrow roads), look at all factors to reduce
speeding in neighborhoods
- Mixed
use overlay – thinks it should be repealed and put the good elements from it
into PDDs
-
Consider shrinking LDO – too big and too detailed
citizen
involvement:
-
Board/Commission improvements – treating everyone who applies as well if not
better than employees
schools:
-
Capacity concurrency with growth (council can’t do this, but it needs to be
done county-wide)
- Cary
approves new growth and has a responsibility regarding capacity involvement
– this should be Cary’s only responsibility
-
Support taxing authority for school board
- Ok
with changing to at large representation
-
Alignment of responsibility and authority
-
Advocate that school board look at policies regarding growth makeup of
neighborhood regarding school assignments (protect mature neighborhoods from
reassignment)
- Use
trailers in high growth areas because new schools will be built here
(reassignment comes from these overcrowded schools) -- minimize domino
effect
-
Discussion of funding source linked to growth (concurrency with growth);
taxpayers will not continue to vote for bonds with reassignment issues.
- Impact
fees (county wide)
- Be a
leader in county representing citizens to seek long term solutions to school
issues
Gale Adcock:
operational issues:
- Need a
few rules that are consistently and fairly applied
- Show
that the town cares about people’s concerns
- Be a
great place to everyone
development:
-
Infrastructure well considered to support development and redevelopment
-
Connect development/redevelopment decisions with infrastructure (Consider
re-urbanizing areas in old Cary
- Infill
development consistent with existing development
citizen
involvement:
- Wants
to see new people be part of the process
- Give
more people an opportunity to serve
schools:
-
Neighborhood schools
-
Relationship building with school board with honest dialog
-
Stronger relationships with Wake
County
delegation (taxing authority, etc.)
- Change
in how school board is elected (broader constituency)
environment:
- Be
adamant about environmental protection (i.e., violating stream buffers)
- Convey
importance of stream buffers to real estate/development community (share
Cary’s goals/priorities)
Jennifer Robinson:
planning:
-
Landbanking initiative (essential to meet school capacities needs in future)
- Plan
for next office park; use existing economic development program to lead that
endeavor
-
Support for mass grading initiatives (through task force)
engineering:
- Commit
to grade separated crossings (any road that is 4 lane median divided or
larger will have grade separation at some point – at least one route
east/west and north/south without crossing a road to promote use of
greenways)
-
Explore intelligent alternatives to wider roads (roundabouts, through lanes,
free flow right lanes, etc.)
-
Standard of 20’ landscaped medians for all new roads for safety
-
Specific study for Cary Parkway/High House Road intersection (alternatives
to widening to move traffic) – geographic center of Town of Cary
mass
transit:
- Take
lead role with CSX corridor from Apex to Durham – shared use of facility for
mass transportation or purchase entire rail line in conjunction with the
county and Apex
- Pursue
equity formula for transportation dollars
stormwater
- Higher
standards for stormwater management especially during construction (do more)
- Wants
BMPs to be more attractive
- Wants
staff to go the extra mile to learn how to manage stormwater in an urban
area that will be an asset
downtown:
- Wants
to establish themes for downtown (courtyards, fountains, etc.) so we have
repeating theme executed through downtown
- Wants
economic development program to execute marketing of downtown
-
Promote green construction for downtown (create incentives to do this)
- Wants
council to address head on the center for arts issue (no one will initiate
private fundraising until commitment is given) – have work session with
council decision
parks,
recreation and cultural resources:
- Strive
to connect all greenways
- Buy
land for greenway hub
- Grade
separated passages
- Don’t
miss out on the opportunity to acquire farming resources/advice for
agriculture park; move forward with design of park and use community
resources
- Build
aquatic center
- Build
community centers in north and west
- Ensure
timely and adequate ambulance service for the community
schools:
-
Supports school initiatives but not on her focus list
Julie Robison:
environment:
- Green
community – be a leader
- Tap
into citizen base and universities for environmental expertise
-
Develop long term values
- Task
force (going green) – future looking with short term plan
- cool
city designation
-
connect roads/transportation/infrastructure
citizen
involvement:
-
citizen involvement in planning process (how we build out and the role of
the public)
-
eliminate disconnect between citizens and government
-
systemized way for citizens to be at table (connected and involved in shared
process)
council
as a group:
-
effectiveness of council as a team (how to operationalize and best
principles/operating practices); work sessions – casual, no agenda – no
decision making; communication tool/information sharing; focus on follow up;
continual team-building with commitment; monthly opportunities; identify and
create policy leadership opportunities
Jack Smith:
Constrain
everything with budget collar – understand tax rate/rev and understand tradeoffs
(general comment)
schools:
- fix
existing or create new system
- Board
of Education taxing authority
-
clustering (strengthen districts and keep children within district)
-
Advocate that school board look at policies regarding growth makeup of
neighborhood regarding school assignments (protect mature neighborhoods from
reassignment)
- Impact
fees (county wide)
- Be a
leader in county representing citizens to seek long term solutions to school
issues
downtown:
-
downtown reinvestment/revitalization – what else can we do to inspire people
to do this?
- Cary
Elementary – cultural arts center – how can we do it faster?
- work
with and incent developers
- Wants
economic development program to execute marketing of downtown
- Wants
council to address head on the center for arts issue (no one will initiate
private fundraising until commitment is given) – have work session with
council decision
citizens:
- Show
that town cares about people’s concerns
-
Citizen involvement needs to be based on sound judgment and good
communication – both ways
-
Develop feedback and communication techniques which help the process to
sort out ‘squeaky wheel /isolated disenfranchisement’ versus legitimate
issues. Aggressively address perception issues as they must be treated
as ‘real’.
-
Council has to have the courage to make decisions – that’s why we have a
representative government – and do our homework to ensure we are
addressing the greater good and not just the self interests of a few.
growth
and development:
- Growth
– what types (density, multi-family vs. office – wants more office)
-
Building out – how to handle, population/density
-
Support for mass grading initiatives (through task force)
- Strive
to keep Cary with a neighborhood/suburban ‘feel’
-
Cap on density e.g.: In 1989 we had no multi family with a density of
greater than 8 – Stratford Apartments was our first exception – going to
9 units per acre – the dam was now breached…….
-
Infill should blend with the existing adjacent ‘DNA’ & be held to a
higher standard
stormwater:
- Higher
standards for stormwater management especially during construction (do more)
- Wants
staff to go the extra mile to learn how to manage stormwater in an urban
area that will be an asset
regional
cooperation:
- Become
more aggressive as a leader in the Region on initiatives that affect us all
e.g.:
-
Regional planning
-
Impact Fees
-
School Board taxing authority – now!
Economic
development:
-
Through EDC (?) establish mechanism/process for engaging private sector on
fund raising/investment in Cary – e.g.:
- We
can’t fund it all (our priorities must be in addressing needs, then
wants.
-
Ironically, our QOL is predicated mostly on our wants – so how do we
maintain all we value and still keep taxes within reason?
-
Private sector needs to step up in funding historical, green, amenities
& similar stuff
Council agreed on the following core themes:
-
Downtown
-
Environment
-
Planning and development
-
Citizen participation
-
Transportation and transit
- Safety
-
Recreation
-
Schools
-
Council effectiveness (tangible process to help communicate and to execute
meetings more effectively)
Council’s proposal for next steps:
-
Using the above categories as a matrix, list the council individual topics
on a spreadsheet and determine where overlap occurs with categories
-
Rank the items as high, medium or low priority
-
Look at different categories and priorities and choose five or six areas in
which to proceed
-
Develop a work plan
-
When an issue is clear, bring forth another issue from the list
-
Agree that other issues with a lower priority will not be handled until the
higher priority work is concluded
Mr.
Coleman’s presentation on the Town’s focus areas and goals to show how the
council’s earlier stated goals might fit into these existing focus areas. This
powerpoint presentation is attached to and incorporated herein as Exhibit.
1He
stated there are two ways to organize and communicate financial impacts of
council’s vision: (1) staff report process and (2) budget process (particularly
capital).
Everyone agreed with the following method of tying financial impact to the
council goals.
Staff
Integration in working with council goals/priorities:
-
Capture financial/budget implications/obligations
- Link
capital improvement plan to council goals
- Help
council look at capital investments/decisions earlier in the process
- Expand
fiscal impact information on staff reports to address impact on
reserves/tradeoffs
-
Clarify impact on debt service
At 1:40
p.m. Council Member Smith joined the group via phone.
The
council worked on putting their goals into the spreadsheet.
Follow up
on the council visioning/goal setting exercise: In the next 30 days staff will
create a gap analysis on the council policy work plan to determine if what we’re
doing matches council’s expectations and if not, then an identification of what
needs to occur to achieve council’s vision. The portions that have budget
implications will be done in conjunction with the budget process. Staff will
determine timeline goals for the non-budget related items. Staff will identify
those items that are legislative/political in nature.
Community Visioning
Planning Director Jeff Ulma next delivered a powerpoint presentation on the
future vision for
Cary; see Exhibit,
which is attached to and incorporated herein, for the presentation.
Community Visioning: Town Council Issues/Concerns/Questions:
- Open
space
-
Schools
- Single
vs. multi-family units vs. non-residential
-
Infrastructure
- Water
-
Transit
- Safety
-
Downtown
-
Leisure/recreation/greenway system
-
Redevelopment
- Charge
- Scope
-
Who/how to engage
- Length
-
Leadership/decision making
-
Representation
- Vision
– plan
Mr.
Coleman asked if it is sufficient to proceed in pursuing a vision for the
community in a similar manner as we’ve used in the recent past or should the
Town consider a long term community visioning process using the entire
community, including getting the public input on how redevelopment fits with the
existing vision.
The
council asked the projected time frame until build-out occurs. Staff estimated
about 20 years.
The
council stated four major issues of concern regarding growth: schools,
roads/traffic, water and open space.
Community
Visioning follow up: The town clerk will schedule council volunteers Jennifer,
Robinson Julie Robison and Erv Portman to meet with staff the first part of
February 2008 to discuss next steps in more detail. The council expressed an
interest in seeing options without making a commitment.
The
Saturday session ended at 5:23 p.m. The group had dinner together.
Sunday:
Council
finished the worksheet
Sunday,
January 20, 2008
The
council met early to complete the spreadsheet outlining their goals. The final
spreadsheet is attached to and incorporated herein as Exhibit.
Leila
Goodwin’s powerpoint presentation on water supply is attached to and
incorporated herein as Exhibit.
Water policy parameters stated by Town Council:
- Impact
of consumption on reservoir
- Reduce
consumption conservation
- Use –
irrigation
-
Continue to lead
- Staff
monitor tools and techniques
- Impact
fees should fully reflect use, consumptions, peak demands
- Supply
irrigation through reclaimed water as much as possible
-
Eliminate residential irrigation watering
- Reduce
household water consumption in new construction
- More
education and incentives for current households to reduce
consumption/conserve
-
Sanctions/penalties
-
Xeriscaping (including turf buy-back program)
- Water
allotments
-
Educate – require education/certification
- Usage
feedback information for consumers
-
Strategies for managing peak
-
Identify and reduce leakage
- Well
water/ground water use for irrigation
-
Help/education citizens to be more self-managing
- Reward
“good” usage
-
Restrict irrigation of non-municipal sources
Water
discussion follow-up: Staff will review the above list and compare it to what
we’re currently doing and the scope of what we’re not currently doing (identify
the convergence), and come up with a suggested priority list and implementation
timeline. Council will conduct a work session on this issue, and staff will
provide all information to council at least a week prior to the work session.
Council
Member Robison asked Finance Director Karen Mills to determine how much time it
will take to look closely at the issue of water rates.
Overall retreat actions, commitments, decisions and next steps:
- The
clerk will schedule Mrs. Robison, Mr. Portman and Mrs. Robinson to meet with
staff the fist part of February to discuss next steps regarding community
visioning.
- The
staff will bring back the staff proposals on the water discussion to council
via a work session.
- In the
next 30 days staff will create a gap analysis on the council policy work
plan to determine if what we’re doing matches council’s expectations and if
not, then an identification of what needs to occur to achieve council’s
vision. The portions that have budget implications will be done in
conjunction with the budget process. Staff will determine timeline goals for
the non-budget related items. Staff will identify those items that are
legislative/political in nature.
-
Council will meet in an informal setting (i.e., breakfast) in February to
develop shared ground rules to follow up on the council effectiveness
discussion. Mrs. Robison will compile framing documents prior to this
meeting for the group to discuss. The agreed upon ground rules will be
included in the council’s rules of procedures policy amendment, which is
scheduled to go to the March operations committee meeting.
The
council expressed their gratitude for the hard work that went into planning the
retreat.
The
retreat ended at
12:01 p.m.