Work Session of the Town of
Subject: Economic Development
Location: Town Hall Conference
Room #11130, 316 N. Academy
Present: Mayor Ernie McAlister,
Council Members Marla Dorrel, Jennifer Robinson and Julie Robison; Mayor Pro Tem
Smith arrived at
Mayor McAlister called the
meeting to order at
Mrs. Robison asked if certain
conditions need to be in place in order to launch an incubator, and she asked
about preferred locations for this type of use. She further asked if the
downtown area could be a potential location. She noted that the RTP currently
has an incubator, and she asked the difference in the RTP existing incubator and
the potential
Mr. Roseland stated he
doesn’t understand the different economic development structure options. He
stated the chamber of commerce is a non-profit, and they have a clear economic
development mission. He asked how a separate non-profit would differ from the
existing chamber. He also asked if it would be better for the Town to provide
the chamber more assistance instead of developing yet another non-profit. The
consultant stated that the chamber is a 501(c)(6), and contributions to them are
business contributions; a 501(c) (3) organization solicits charitable
contributions. The consultant stated that the chamber has many functions and
could take on full plan implementation with the support of the Town (including
additional staff, etc.). A separate
501(c)(3) could be a bridge between the chamber and Town, and has historically
resulted in success in other jurisdictions. This structure gives insulation
between different organizations and leadership groups and can become important
over time. The consultant noted that 501(c)(3) organizations are the trend in
the state, and they have success at fundraising, limited liability, etc.
Mayor McAlister thinks that
structure is the starting point. He stated the chamber has successfully launched
a number of groups that are organized as 501(c)(3) (including Cary Visual Arts,
Veteran’s
Mrs. Robinson wants to learn
why it’s better to go with another organization instead of using the chamber.
She wants more detail about how to move resources under the chamber. She stated
a different organization will result in very expensive administrative costs. She
believes it is reasonable to house economic development under the chamber
instead of recreating something we already have.
Mayor McAlister suggested that
the consultant spend time with Howard Johnson of the chamber, who can advise
them of any potential impacts to the chamber if they undertake this role.
Ms.
Dorrel asked how the Town would be assured that its economic development goals
and strategies are fully implemented if the chamber or another group handles
economic development. The consultant stated that local governments who do this
typically enter into service agreements in order to provide the necessary
economic development funding. She stated these service agreements require an
annual report to show that goals are met.
Mayor Pro Tem Smith stated he
is not familiar with the fundraising aspect. He stated the
Mrs. Robison asked the
difference in a separate 501(c)(3) and a regional economic development
corporation (which are common throughout the state). She asked if a 501(c)(3)
would have authority to leverage a local option project through borrowing, etc.
The consultant stated most county organizations have moved to a public/private
partnership, and most municipalities are doing the same, because it is critical
to have private sector leaders involved in the economic development program.
Regarding the loan question, the consultant stated there are various options,
and loans can be done based on the project and the willingness of the banking
community. The Town would have one or two seats on the board of directors
(traditionally elected officials).
Ms. Dorrel stated the
consultant’s recommendation on product development was different than other
opinions. She stated the report does a good job explaining Sanford-Holshouser’s
view, but she questioned the differing viewpoints. The consultant stated it
could be a lack of knowledge, which also explains the gaps, especially the high
importance placed on recruiting new business and growing existing business, but
lack of business space as a high priority. The participants had a pro-business
attitude. Sometimes people are not familiar with multi-jurisdictional parks (MJP),
which do not have to be in the Town. These MJPs are great partnerships where
several jurisdictions share in the cost and the benefits. The consultant stated
that
Mr. Coleman stated the
implication in the report is that the Town becomes very active in business park
development. He stated there are a wide range of options to do this ranging from
ensuring appropriate zoning at one end of the spectrum to forming a non-profit
and building it ourselves at the opposite end of the spectrum. He pointed out
that there is no direction in the report for how aggressive the Town should
become in this process. He stated historically these have been built by private
developers. The consultant prefers that the private sector take as big a role as
possible in private development.
Mrs. Robinson stated the
council may fear the extreme industrial use, and the council does not want the
“smokestack” industries. She stated it may be important to redefine the
definition of industrial in the zoning code in order to clarify a light
industrial use vs. a heavy industrial use. The consultant stated in today’s
environment if a Town doesn’t want a particular use, then they won’t get
that use because someone else will recruit them. The consultant spoke in favor
of having restrictive covenants, but noted that these should not be overly
restrictive.
Mayor McAlister believes that
the industrial development is more a function of land cost vs. how the zoning
code defines the term industrial. He suggested that a MJP may be a solution to
overcome the high land cost in
The consultant clarified that
“publicly initiated” doesn’t have to mean “publicly led.”
Mr. Roseland stated the RTP is
the biggest business park in the state, and he questioned the need for another.
The consultant stated that the Town needs a park in which
Mr. Roseland asked the
potential buildout of the major business parks in
Ms. Dorrel stated the council
should be clear with its economic development goals.
Mrs. Robinson asked if the
downtown area could potentially be a Department of Commerce (DOC) approved area
for a business park. The consultant stated that DOC typically only certifies
Mrs. Robinson stated the report
doesn’t reflect Sanford-Holshouser opinions or priorities, but she’d like a
better understanding of the consultant’s professional opinions. The consultant
will add comments to this section.
Mrs. Robison stated the report
contains concepts, but they are not weighted with tradeoffs, costs, etc. She
stated it is important for the council to maximize opportunities and to
understand what these actual opportunities are. She expects the final action
plan to provide direction on this issue. She questioned the next exercise
(prioritizing importance of economic development tasks) without the council
having enough information. The consultant replied that they need the council to
reach a consensus of what’s important to them as a group. The consultant needs
to understand council priorities in order to make recommendations. The plan will
be a five-year plan, and whoever implements it needs to know council priorities.
Priorities for each year can be done by council in subsequent work sessions, and
the council is allowed to change their decisions. Several things can be worked
on simultaneously.
Mayor McAlister stated what’s
most important to the council may not have the greatest opportunity for the
Town. He stated the council doesn’t necessarily understand the best avenue. He
expects the consultant to provide input into this.
Ms. Dorrel stated she doesn’t
know the effort and cost relative to the level of impact the Town can get. She
stated it is hard to prioritize without this information. The consultant can go
back through the action steps to identify things easy to implement with a high
impact (the most results).
At this time the council and
the economic development commission members who were present ranked their
economic development priorities by points, with the highest points representing
the highest priority. The rough tally follows, and the consultant will formalize
these results at the next meeting.
The consultant will formalize
the above results. The meeting participants should send additional comments to
Budget Director Scott Fogleman no later than the morning of
The consultant stated it will
take them at least two weeks to be prepared to present the final report. It will
take at least one hour, and the venue should be large enough for everyone who
participated in this process (including focus group participants). Mayor
McAlister stated staff will identify a time and place for the meeting.
Mayor McAlister invited the
economic development commission members who were present to comment. Comments
included:
The consultant referenced
general statute references that may be of interest to the council. They will
send them to Scott Fogleman and will include them in the final report.
Mayor McAlister adjourned the
meeting at