Work Session Minutes of the Town of Cary , North Carolina
Subject: Proposed Capital Improvement Budget
Location: 120 Wilkinson Avenue , 2nd Floor Conference Room
Date:  April 26, 2005

Present: Mayor Ernie McAlister, Mayor Pro Tem Jack Smith, Council Members Marla Dorrel, Mike Joyce, Jennifer Robinson, Julie Robison and Nels Roseland 

Mayor McAlister called the work session to order at 4:36 p.m.

The purpose of the work session is to promote discussion among Council members regarding priority setting as it relates to requested Capital Improvement Budget/Program (CIB/P) projects and initial programming for Fiscal Year 2006, to provide guidance to staff regarding Council’s desires in terms of fund balance, debt capacity and specific FY 2006 projects, and to pursue and promote discussion among Council members regarding the long-term capital funding philosophy for transportation and parks projects (funding versus project driven). Staff is requesting that Council make decisions on methodology and philosophy.

Assistant Town Manager Ben Shivar said that staff developed information to bring council into the budget process earlier in response to previous council concerns and requests for more involvement with the development of the CIB/P. Mr. Shivar said that staff is looking for feedback from Council on staff’s approach to the budget.

I.  PRIORITY SETTING

Budget Director Scott Fogleman said that Council identifying the highest priority of projects for long term purposes helps staff to set targets for those projects. (Staff’s PowerPoint presentation is attached to and incorporated in these minutes as Exhibit A).

Mr. Fogleman said that a couple of years ago staff adopted an approach to identify project requests as either funded (meeting set funding targets) or unfunded to help with setting priority levels. Those categories are taken into consideration when developing the CIB/P.

Ms. Dorrel asked for clarification on the definitions of funded and unfunded. Mr. Fogelman responded that staff started the capital improvement process with five different funding target levels. He said it was ultimately decided that based on committed to projects and timing and current needs one version of an early target in terms of funding needed to be changed. He said with the internal funding philosophy for prioritization they changed the funding target; however, the idea of funded versus unfunded remains the same in concept.

Mrs. Robinson asked if funded is identifying requests for funding. Mr. Fogleman responded yes. He stated that rather than having different categories for request for funding, manager recommended for funding, and council approved for funding, staff chose to use the term funded throughout the process. He said that the ultimate definition is different for council awarded funding and project manager requests for funding.

Ms. Dorrel asked about adequate funding for funded projects. Mr. Fogleman responded that it depends on council approval of appropriations in a given year and is based on commitment and priorities for certain projects. He said that just because the term funded is used doesn’t mean that a project is funded. Mr. Shivar added that it is key to what is submitted by department directors and to the level of availability of funding.

Mr. Fogleman stated that staff has used the terms funded and unfunded internally for the past two years and understands what it means at certain points in the process. However, he understands the confusion created by those terms and staff will look into using alternative terminology.

Mr. Fogleman said that using a target type of approach allows staff to look at revenue growth for the coming year and determine high priority projects. Mr. Shivar added that it is also a good way of indicating priority limitations for projects.

II.  FY 2006 FINANCIAL PICTURE - GENERAL AND UTILITY CAPITAL RESERVE FUNDS

Mr. Fogleman stated that the general capital projects are transportation, fire, general government, and parks, recreation and cultural resources.

Mr. Joyce asked if the numbers presented in the fund balance chart exceed the six months fund balance goal set by Council. Mr. Fogleman responded yes, stating that the general fund is for operating expenditures. He said that debt service for projects is typically appropriated through the CIB.

Mrs. Robison asked about the increase in the Powell Bill fund balance from FY05 to FY06. Mr. Fogleman replied that there weren’t as many Powell Bill qualifying projects on the list for FY06 as there were for FY05. He said that it is heavily restricted to certain types of transportation projects, as the population grows, the revenue grows as well.

Mr. Joyce asked about spending for Powel Bill money. Mr. Fogleman said that Powel Bill money is used for qualifying projects in the upcoming CIB. He said if a midyear request is received for which Powell funds are eligible then staff would recommend using Powell Bill money as that funding source.

Ms. Dorrel asked about the reduction of Powell Bill funds in 2004. Mr. Fogleman replied that 2004 was the year that the governor borrowed funds for other higher priority needs.

Mrs. Robison asked about fee categories for general fund debt service. Mr. Fogleman said the fees present the cost of financing. He said it includes the various fees charged by the banks, lending institutions, attorneys’ fees, etc. The fees do not necessarily correlate to any given project category.

Mayor McAlister asked about the escalating debt service, adding new increments of debt to finance projects, and removing debt from completed projects completed. He also asked about runoff if no new debt were added. Mr. Fogleman responded that there is a net figure which includes old debt as well as the new debt service. He said that if no new debt is appropriated for FY06 in the budget process, the debt would increase for FY06 and FY07 and then starting decreasing in FY08. He said dependent upon various loan amounts and payments it would be somewhere between $300,000 to $500,000 per year as it amortizes.

Mrs. Robison asked if the new wastewater facility debt was included. Mr. Fogleman responded no, stating wastewater debt is a separate analysis under utility debt.

Mr. Joyce asked about borrowing money to pay for land. Mr. Fogleman said it is appropriated with debt.

Mrs. Robison asked about the percentage of water or sewer debt attributable to newly annexed areas. Mr. Fogelman said little or none has been used for those projects because about $13.5 million was appropriated in the utility operating fund fund balance. Mr. Joyce then asked if money is in place for someone who petitions the town for water and sewer. Mr. Fogleman responded that a series of capital projects are set up when bringing in new areas.

Mrs. Robison asked about the increase in revenue for FY04 for water and sewer development fees. Mr. Fogleman responded that it would be the clear driver of the revenue going up. He stated that in March of 2004 fees were decreased by 30%; it would also depend on whether the economy bouncing back. He said that the number of permits did increase in FY04. He said that a certain base of income for number of permits issued has been volatile over the years and that a slight increase in permits could be the reason for the increase for both water and sewer.

Ms. Dorrel stated that she noticed that there wasn’t a similar peak in Transportation Development Fees (TDFs), and asked if that had to do with timing. Engineering Director Tim Bailey responded that revenues for TDFs cannot be predicted. He said that credits exist for TDFs. Mr. Fogleman added that significant credits are outstanding in the system. He said that built up credits will most likely be used to offset payments, so the possibility of a significant reduction is likely.

III.  OVERVIEW OF INITIAL FY 2006 CIB PROGRAMMING

Mrs. Robison asked about the $500,000 requested for sidewalk projects for FY06. Mr. Fogleman stated that sidewalks are handled through the project priority listing. He said that that the funds are allocated for sidewalks and then a determination is made as to funding recommendations for specific projects within the target.

Mr. Joyce asked what happens to unrestricted funds and their location in the general fund balance. Mr. Fogleman said that capital projects are set up for funding once council adopts the budget and the money is set aside for that purpose.

Mr. Roseland asked about debt road capacity. Mr. Shivar said that the Town has substantial debt capacity. Mr. Fogleman added that the Town would need about $15.3 million in transportation bond authority and $4.3 million in parks and recreation bond authority. He said it would most likely mean about $2 million in incremental debt service by 2008.

Mrs. Robison stated that council needs to determine which transportation projects to go forward with or to delay. Mr. Joyce added that council may need to adjust their priorities.

Mr. Smith asked how priorities are established. Mr. Fogelman said they are executed in the thoroughfare master plan identifying needs with the Town. Mr. Bailey added that council has already executed agreements on medium projects. He said that high priorities are those projects for which council has authorized staff to proceed and funding exists to complete the project.

Mayor McAlister said council has to decide how to fund the gap, which may mean eliminating projects set forth by staff. He suggested that council review the options and determine how to proceed. He said that stopping existing projects and reappropriating funding is the least appealing option because staff was authorized earlier in the process to move forward with those projects.

Mr. Roseland said it would help to know how much general fund fund balance is left over and above the 50 percent policy goal. Mr. Shivar stated that the amount left is basically $11 million over the 50 percent goal.

Ms. Dorrel asked about the $7.8 million general government request. Mr. Fogleman responded that there is no restrictive type of revenue source for the general government project category. He said it is for either a cash or debt funding mechanism and staff suggested using restricted type revenues for projects for which those restricted revenues qualify; however, no restricted revenue could be identified for the general government projects.

Mr. Fogleman said that staff would be able to provide council with information on specific projects within the developmental pipeline and any consequences for specific projects with the decision implications.

Mr. Roseland said that for any projects which have been dormant for 10 years, closed out, or addressed through other means, then the money needs to go into the general fund fund balance and not linger for years to come unless there is a very compelling reason to do so. Mr. Shivar responded that each year Town staff reviews projects which need to be closed out and projects that have been completed. He said that any leftover money is reappropriated. Mr. Bailey added that one way to approach existing projects is to review the list and determine which projects to pull in order to narrow the list.

Mr. Shivar said staff will work to provide explanations on any projects for which council would like further information.

Mayor McAlister said that debt will need to be added to complete some of the projects done. He said that council needs to determine which projects to delay and which to fund with debt.

Mrs. Robinson said that council should give staff direction on how much they are comfortable with in transferring funds from the general fund balance and how much debt they are willing to take on, and then prioritize the list from there allowing staff to provide recommendations based on council guidance.

Mayor McAlister asked about issuing debt on bond issues and using a guideline to estimate debt capacity. Mr. Fogleman said that that has been done where adjustments have been identified thus far. He said by subtracting $8.2 million from the $11 million over the 50 percent policy goal then there will be approximately $3 million left at the end of FY06.

Mrs. Robison asked about the general fund balance offsetting transportation and parks, recreation and cultural resources. Mr. Fogleman said looking over and above the 50 percent goal of the fund balance, which is equal to 6 months worth of operating expenditures and debt service within the general fund, it depends on whether council decides to adjust the policy to mitigate debt needs into the future.

Mr. Roseland questioned whether the Town needs to have the amount of fund balance we currently have. Mr. Shivar said staff can look into reducing the fund balance.

Mr. Roseland asked about the margin created if using a 35 percent goal and suggested comparing it with larger cities. Mr. Smith asked about the risk to the AAA bond rating if reducing the goal to 35 percent. Mayor McAlister asked whether additional debt within the acceptable limits would affect the bond rating more than a decrease in the fund balance. Ms. Mills said responded that several things are taken into consideration for the bond rating. She said that every bond rating is based on individual cities and the pros and cons of the financial position of that city. She said that the Town’s fund balance has provided significant value in the rating compared to the size of the government; the agencies looked at the willingness of the council to set priorities and bring in revenues.

Mayor McAlister asked about the rating agency analyses. Ms. Mills stated that the agencies expect council to use their authority to make decisions and bring revenues to the priorities going forward. She said it depends in part on how critical the projects are to maintaining quality of life in your city; they are looking at management, council willingness to make tough decisions when needed, and the economy. Ms. Mills said that in comparing Cary to other governments our debt capacity and numbers are significantly different than other municipalities having lower fund balance numbers. Mr. Shivar added that the Town of Cary is one of the smallest municipalities with a AAA bond rating.

Mrs. Robison said that the fund balance policy goal needs to be reviewed to determine how much is needed to keep a healthy strong balance and to also find out what is available to offset potential debt accumulation.

Mayor McAlister said that the capital budget cannot be evaluated without looking at other factors. He said that Council needs to have some idea of what would happen if everything were funded with debt and what affect it would have on the Town’s income statement in two years. He said that the incremental level of debt that might be added to fund projects will not equate to what already exists.

Ms. Dorrel said that when the Town’s fund balance was higher the town received significant revenues from the interest and council needs to understand the impact of lowering the fund balance. Ms. Mills added that lowering the fund balance target is a one-time solution.

Mr. Joyce asked about the $66 million in debt sold in July. Mr. Fogleman responded that $22 million is utility related and the remaining is debt that is associated with previously funded projects for which the Town is ready to issue the debt to proceed. He said some of the projects for FY06 represent the first year of funding and some represent the last year of funding.

Mrs. Robison said that council also needs to understand the impact debt service would have on taxes. Mayor McAlister said in order for that analysis to be valid a flat tax rate would have to be considered. Mr. Fogleman said that staff needs to identify the incremental cost. He said that cost recovery could be done with either revenue production or cost reduction. Mayor McAlister said that he does not want a tax increase to become the default.

IV.  WRAP-UP

Mr. Roseland asked staff to provide more details on the radios requested in the budget.

Mrs. Robinson requested information on what would happen if council went with a fraction of the debt. She would also like to receive any other materials that would be helpful as they go through this list to make recommendations for project cuts.

Ms. Dorrel requested information on what investments have already been made on particular projects.

Mr. Joyce requested the line item budget for the Parks, Recreation and Cultural Resources Department; he is specifically interested in information regarding cultural resources.

Mr. Roseland said with respect to cultural resources, he would like staff to think about significant downtown improvements to help with economic development and to consider some reserve contribution for downtown.

Mrs. Robison asked about transportation requests for the CIP with respect to the south Cary area and the overall road improvements for the Ten Ten road area. She requested information on outstanding funding that has already been approved in order to see how it fits in with existing gaps in that area. Mr. Fogleman stated that staff is prepared to discuss those issue at the next meeting. Mr. Bailey said that the Ten Ten project is currently in the ten year plan with three phases having been added.

Mrs. Robinson questioned the widening of Maynard Road/Kildaire Farm at this time, especially in light of the fact that there are other roads, such as Ten Ten, that are overburdened. She said she would like the project reviewed again because she doesn’t think that the widening will be an enhancement to the community.

Mr. Smith said that staff needs to reassess proposed road widenings and requested information on which projects could be delayed.

Mayor McAlister stated that Council would like to receive the requested information at least five days prior to the May 19th work session.

He thanked the staff for their presentation and commended them on a job well done.

The work session ended at 6:38 p.m.